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Old Dec 13, 2010, 12:51 AM // 00:51   #21
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im sure blind+bleeding on elite status is still < oppressive gaze poison+bleed+weakness on normal status
Blind is more powerful than poison / bleeding / weakness - a blind physical is essentially removed from the match, less so a weakened physical. Poisoned and bleeding physicals are completely unaffected in terms of damage output (aka. don't qualify as defense).

The conditions aren't created on equal footing. Bleeding is clearly weaker than poison, while dazed and blind are much stronger than both of them. That's why they are harder to apply, just count what applies daze vs. what applies bleeding for instance.

BSurge is already a strong skill, so making it apply bleeding would be even worse. BSurge is a skill which you'll be constantly using, and the bleeding will add up to big pressure. It affects Shell Shock less because Shell Shock is a spike skill - you use it on spike, when the 3 health degen from bleeding doesn't matter so much. But it would still be a (rather unwarranted) buff to what is already a strong spell, which is why everyone opposes it.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 01:01 PM // 13:01   #22
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By this logic, all swords, axes, daggers, scythes, and spears should cause bleeding everytime they hit.
All hammers should cause cracked armor and deep wound on each hit. 10% chance to cause daze since it might hit in the head.
you mean 10% chance of instant death because i find it hard to believe anyone would survive a scythe directly to the face.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 03:05 PM // 15:05   #23
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you mean 10% chance of instant death because i find it hard to believe anyone would survive a scythe directly to the face.
good point.
And it bumps to 50% chance if you're wielding dhuum's soul reaper
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 03:06 PM // 15:06   #24
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I find it hard to believe a scythe looking like that, aka prepared for harvest, can damage anyone but the holder, if we're at it.
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Old Dec 13, 2010, 09:05 PM // 21:05   #25
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I find it hard to believe a scythe looking like that, aka prepared for harvest, can damage anyone but the holder, if we're at it.
That's true.

To turn a scythe into a weapon, you pull straight the blade so it point in the same direction as the pole of the scythe, and that is called a war scythe.
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Old Dec 19, 2010, 04:11 PM // 16:11   #26
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invoke lightning> Bsurge. How to make Invoke=Bsurge is to make it have degen xD. And if Invoke is nerfed it means triple melee is gonna stay and spike is still gonna wait for that power creeep to be viable.
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Old Dec 19, 2010, 04:14 PM // 16:14   #27
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For a troll thread, some you desperatly eager to proove a point, fierce.

Can we close it now? I was almost tempted myself to be trollbait.
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Old Dec 19, 2010, 08:27 PM // 20:27   #28
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invoke lightning> Bsurge. How to make Invoke=Bsurge is to make it have degen xD.
No. Invoke =/= Bsurge, they have different functions. You're not getting the point. Invoke Lightning is for damage, Blinding Surge is for support. Physical attackers most likely aren't going to care as much if they get zapped then they would getting blinded.

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I don't feel like this is going anywhere.

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